# Lost my 12 words, but have quick access link, can I recover 12 words from there?
**URL:** https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [June 1, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245 "2015-06-01T16:58:14Z")
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### Author:  [@Mario\_Medina](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/Mario_Medina)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/1 "2015-06-01T16:58:14Z")
Hello! lost (well, forgot to write) the 12 words for the login, but saved the quick access link. So I can login to my wallet, but I want to know if it is possible to recover the 12 words from that link.
Thank you!
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### Author:  [@something](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/something)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/2 "2015-06-01T18:06:44Z")
Interesting problem… Good to hear you can still access the wallet!
I don’t know of a way to go back from the quick access link to pass phrase.
You could certainly create another wallet and send your holdings to it.
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### Author:  [@Mario\_Medina](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/Mario_Medina)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/3 "2015-06-01T22:05:31Z")
I also have the private keys of the bitcoin addresses, can I import all keys in a new wallet, to avoid the need of transfer the funds?
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### Author:  [@something](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/something)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2015, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/4 "2015-06-02T05:00:35Z")
> [@Mario\_Medina](#):
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> I import all keys in a new wallet, to avoid the need of transfer the funds
Yes, but the moment you actually import the funds, that will be a transfer.
You might as well wait until you actually want to use the coins and do it then (maybe transfer them where you actually need them).
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### Author:  [@FoldingCoin](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/FoldingCoin)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2015, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/5 "2015-06-02T05:08:56Z")
Yeah just in case, in my opinion, i would move your funds as soon as possible so you do not loss them if you loss the quick access link
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### Author:  [@Bitillionaire](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/Bitillionaire)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2015, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/6 "2015-06-21T06:10:25Z")
So the twelve words that I have written down seem to log into a different wallet. I have the quick link, but it doesn’t go to the wallet. It goes to the login page. I have about $50 worth of coins in this wallet I am trying to recover, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
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### Author:  [@something](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/something)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2015, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/7 "2015-06-21T08:56:42Z")
Sorry to hear about that.
If you don’t have the pass phrase (or quick access link + password), there’s no other way to access the wallet.
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### Author:  [@Bitillionaire](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/Bitillionaire)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2015, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/8 "2015-06-21T11:05:46Z")
So this would be a password I set?
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### Author:  [@something](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/something)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2015, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/9 "2015-06-21T12:17:27Z")
The password you set would be used together with the URL:
> [@What is a Quick Access URL?](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/what-is-a-quick-access-url/1224):
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> It is a specially crafted URL which allows you to avoid using the complex 12 word pass phrase when logging in to your Counterwallet. It can be created in Counterwallet Settings (the gear wheel icon) or, in case of a new wallet, during the initial wallet setup procedure. Example of the first of two steps taken on the Counterwallet Testnet is displayed below. [image]
If you have the password but not the URL (or URL, but not the password), then this won’t work.
If you can get it, then you still won’t be able to find your 12 word pass phrase\*, but you’d be able to get all the private keys for your wallet addresses and/or send your funds to a new wallet (which you can create separately).
The 12 word pass phrase provides a way to access the wallet and all addresses within it. It is shown to the user only once and there’s no backup or recovery (and also there’s no registration of users, so the Project know neither the pass phrase nor the identity of wallet/address owners). This approach provides excellent security, but there’s no way to recover the credentials because noone has seen them except the user (at the time of wallet creation).
- Maybe it would be possible to use the Counterwallet Easy Access URL script to create a pass phrase recovery script, but such script doesn’t exist at the moment. It’s easy enough to sweep the addresses (or send the contents elsewhere).
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### Author:  [@Bitillionaire](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/Bitillionaire)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2015, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/10 "2015-06-21T13:05:01Z")
Well, I’m sure I can figure out the password, since I have the URL. I hope so, anyway. Just trial and error. I have a lot of them laying around.
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### Author:  [@cryptodigger](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/cryptodigger)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/11 "2016-03-08T13:05:31Z")
I am in the same boat more or less…
I have the URL but lack the password and the twelve word. Sure can try a lot of passwords I am using but was wondering if there are any tools out there that can speed up the process. What I mean is are there tools that can enter an itteration automatically, like base password “Helloworldxxxx” where xxxx is replaced by 0000 - 9999 automatically.
thanks.
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### Author:  [@something](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/something)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/12 "2016-03-08T15:02:47Z")
There are tools for the 12 word pass phrase, but it (the 12 word pass phrase mechanism) is very secure.
You’d have to remember a big majority of the words for the tool to have even a remote chance of brute-guessing the remaining few that you don’t remember, but for what it’s worth here it is:
> [@Is it possible to create list of addresses and private keys from Counterwallet pass phrase?](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/is-it-possible-to-create-the-list-of-addresses-from-counterwallet-pass-phrase/1223):
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> Yes, it can be done in several ways and the corresponding private keys can be obtained too. Counterwallet uses JavaScript to generate the addresses (see [https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterwallet/blob/master/src/js/util.bitcore.js](https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterwallet/blob/master/src/js/util.bitcore.js)). Anyone can easily generate a list of addresses that belong to their Counterwallet from the pass phrase with this or other utility - Counterwallet uses the standard deterministic path and shows first twenty-odd addresses. Here we’ll show two methods that can …
This tool you could run on many computers in parallel and there is no need to spread the load by words, that search is simply probabilistic - you’d use the same parameters on all systems.
I don’t know of a tool that can help with the Quick Access URL. It seems that one is simpler to crack (if you have the URL), but I haven’t heard of a tool that could automate it. Somebody who understands JavaScript could look at Counterwallet source code and see what needs to be attacked and how to detect when the result is success, but I haven’t heard of anyone trying.
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### Author:  [@JPJA](https://forums.counterparty.io/u/JPJA)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.counterparty.io/t/lost-my-12-words-but-have-quick-access-link-can-i-recover-12-words-from-there/1245/13 "2016-03-08T18:52:42Z")
> I have the URL but lack the password and the twelve word. Sure can try a lot of passwords I am using but was wondering if there are any tools out there that can speed up the process
I don’t think such a tool exists but it is definitely possible to make one. If there were a bounty on it, I could give it a try.